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Earthquake in Pacific Northwest

The Seattle, WA and Vancouver, BC region just experienced an earthquake around 11:00am. All Robelle office personnel are ok, although communication lines may be temporarily overloaded.


Ecometry Corp Selects Qedit for Windows


Ecometry Corporation has recently adopted Qedit for Windows Client/Server Editor for internal use across three core departments. A site license enables Ecometry's programming team to use Qedit for Windows as the tool of choice for source code development while the Client Services group will be using Qedit for Windows to create and modify job streams and Suprtool scripts for customers. Qedit for Windows will also be installed at Ecometry Corp.'s training facilities in Delray Beach, Florida, to provide customers taking classes with a modern interface to HP e3000 files. Qedit For Windows

Ecometry Corp.'s purchase of Qedit for Windows echoes the growing popularity of this easy-to-use client/server editor within Ecometry's client base. Over the last year, nearly twenty customers have adopted Qedit for Windows, including recent purchases by Lego Systems, Inc., Urban Outfitters, and Design within Reach, to name a few.

Ecometry users: Be sure to check out the special Ecometry section of our website for more information.


What Is That Funny Red Bar?


In Qedit For Windows, you will see a small red bar in the scroll bar on the right. This is the split bar or Splitter. It allows you to divide the current window into two or more independently scrolling views into the same file. Great for debugging, where you put the data declarations in one window while you scroll through the code in another.

To use the splitter, grab it with your mouse and drag it down. When you release the mouse, your window will be divided at that spot with a yellow line to warn you that they are actually the same file. Of course, windows can only get so small; while you are dragging the splitter, Qedit shows a dotted double line if the window won't fit and a solid double line if it will.


To unsplit, just drag the yellow back to the top, or double click on it. To split a window exactly in half, just double click on the splitter bar (no need to drag it). You can also split vertically (try the Split Window command on the Window menu).

For more tips about Qedit for Windows, visit the permanent location of this story.


Robelle Tutorials

The tutorials we have presented at user conferences are a treasure trove of useful tips and techniques. Now the tutorial workbooks are available online in compact PDF format. If you have the Adobe viewer installed, then opening the link should display the tutorial in your browser. If you'd like to download the tutorial, right-click the link, and select "Save target as...". Then run Adobe Acrobat Viewer from your start menu. Use this method also if you have any trouble getting the Adobe reader to start up from your browser.

Qedit's Forgotten Commands by Hans Hendriks (105K)
Qedit Cookbook for Novices by Bob Green (121K)
Sharing HP e3000 Data to the World by Paul Gobes (646K)
Ensuring Data Integrity Using Suprtool by Mike Shumko (86K)
From the HP3000 to the Web using Suprtool by Francois Desrochers (171K)
Speeding Up QUIZ using Suprtool by Hans Hendriks (94K)
Exporting Data from MPE to the World using STExport by Mike Shumko (134K)
Combining Data Files Without Keys by Paul Gobes (126K)
Suprtool Tables, Keys, and 3rd Party Indexing by Neil Armstrong (75K)


Living With 400 I/Os Per Second

Last week Neil Armstrong, Robelle Senior Programmer in charge of Suprtool, travelled to Florida for the annual Performance Seminar. Neil consulted with users, listened to other experts to learn new things, and presented a paper on I/O performance:

The slowest link in the performance chain will always be physical mechanisms, i.e. disk and tape drives. Where CPU transactions are measured in millions or billions of instructions per second and logical memory I/O's measured in tens of thousands per second, physical I/O's are still measured in dozens, or perhaps hundreds. Neil explains software and database strategies for improving I/O performance, but he also details his explorations of HP's new PCI backbone and what it suggests for increased I/O performance.

Neil's detailed results testing Suprtool on the new N class servers are especially interesting to read. His presentation is available in PDF format which requires the Adobe Acrobat viewer to read.


Consultants: Moonwillow, LLC.

Diana Carlin invites you to consider Moonwillow LLC in Tijeras New Mexico for your MACS/Ecometry support. They work on-site, providing e3000 training, systems maintenance, MPE/Ecometry upgrades, even Suprtool training! From their office they can also offer Ecometry production support, conversions, emergency programming, e3000 admin, WebOrder support, and more.

Company Name: Moonwillow, LLC.
Speciality:MACS/Ecometry Support
Description:From occasional access to a seasoned Ecometry expert to the outsourcing of all HPe3000/Ecometry systems support and maintenance, Moonwillow offers the level of support most appropriate for your business needs.
Contact:Diana Carlin
Location:Tijeras, NM
Phone:505.286.4523 x202
Web site:moonwillow.net


What to Tell a Newcomer?

People who have never used the HP e3000 are often overwhelmed when an e3000 is dropped on their desk to support (in addition to the PC network, AS/400 and UNIX boxes they already support). There are a lot of links to e3000 material on the web (see our About the e3000 page for example), but which are the best pages for newcomers, and in what order?

We are putting together a "New to the 3000" web page, so send your suggestions and ideas to bgreen@robelle.com



CAMUS - Computer Applications for Manufacturing Users Society - is a users group for MANMAN and MK users. Their annual conference is March 11-14, 2001 - in San Diego, CA.

Both the MANMAN and MK manufacturing applications were taken over by Computer Associates, International in 1995, and are now supported by CA's interBiz Supply Chain Group. The purpose of CAMUS is to provide a forum for networking and information exchange and to influence the direction of development and policies of interBiz and related vendors. The conference has five tracks including the MK track, the MANMAN track, a general how-to, innovations, and a bonus track. There is a great variety of talks being given by users, interBiz trainers, and consultants - see the complete agenda.

And don't miss the Exhibit hall which will feature consultants and vendors demonstrating their services and solutions. Robelle will be represented by Summit Systems Inc. Summit Systems specializes in MANMAN consulting and offers an array of products that enhance the MANMAN package. The folks at Summit Systems are very familiar with Robelle's Suprtool and if you don't already have Suprtool, you might be moving data around the hard way!

Stop by Summit Systems' booth and they will be happy to explain how Suprtool can improve performance at your site and help you with your data manipulation tasks. Robelle's product literature will also be available at Summit's booth.


Entering the Escape Character

Hans Hendriks
To enter the Escape character into a file using Qedit for Windows needs a little workaround. First choose a substitute character like "Z" and type it in wherever you want to use the Escape character.

Then follow these steps: 1) Select 'Replace' from the 'Edit' menu, 2) Search for: Z, 3) Replace with: \e, 4) Check the 'Regular Expression' box, 5) Select 'Entire File' and press the Replace button.

Hans Hendriks of Robelle technical support created a better solution: a simple QSL (Qedit Scripting Language) script that allows you to insert one of several common non-printable characters. To try the script, just copy it from this web page to the clipboard, paste into a local Qedit window, and Save As InsertSpec.qsl on your PC desktop. Then click Script, Manage Scripts, and Add, browse to the Desktop, select InsertSpec.qsl, and click Done.

You should see "InsertSpecialCharacter" on your Script Menu. Now just point with your cursor and select which special character you want to insert. For more tips and the listing of the script, visit the permanent location of this story.


Easing MANMAN Month-End, and More

Brian Hiller (bhiller@telsmith.com) of Telsmith sent us a very nice email about his experiences as a new Suprtool user:

"I purchased Suprtool for its speed. We needed to reduce the run times for our month-end job streams. We have incorporated Suprtool into all of our most CPU-intensive month-end job streams and have been able to reduce their run times by 40%!!!

"With Suprtool, we've reduced the time needed to perform our month-end close from 10 hours to 6. We will incorporate Suprtool into some of the less CPU-intensive job streams as time permits. We can probably save another hour with these changes.

"As an unexpected plus, I was able to create archival/retrieval utilities for information stored in my MANMAN databases. This keeps the capacity levels in my production MANMAN databases low, which speeds up processing and at the same time, allows me to keep the information in near-line databases for easy retrieval! I just type the part numbers I want to archive or retrieve and Suprtool copies all of the related information for the part into the target database. The entire set of routines took only 8 hours to write and test. This utility also works great for creating test databases.

"There are three features that really stand out.

"The first one is the pattern-matching used in the IF statement. The second one is the TABLE command and the third one is the entire STEXPORT subsystem. I am slowly changing all of the QUIZ routines I have written that create comma delimited files for import into spreadsheet programs. I can create a routine to export data in less than 1 minute with STEXPORT. That same routine would have taken 30 minutes to write in QUIZ.

"In case you haven't guessed, I am extremely satisfied with Suprtool. "

Brian Hiller
Systems Manager
Telsmith, Inc.

For another's MANMAN users perspective on Suprtool, read Lou Lange's story.


Editing Self-Describing Files

Paul Gobes
The Suprtool Output-Link command creates a Self-Describing File, which is identical to any extract file, except that it also contains a complete description of the data fields within user labels that are added to the file. This allows you to feed the file back into Suprtool later and not have to Define the fields by column position. Very useful! So we recommmend that most output files be created as Self-Describing files.

On Thursday, February 15, 2001 at 12:26 PM, Larry McAfee at Merck (Larry_McAfee@merck.com) submitted the following question about Qedit and Suprtool through our web site problem form:

May I add/modify/delete records with Qedit to direct files with a file type of SD (self describing) without damaging the file?

At 12:39 PM (11 minutes later), Robelle's Technical Support manager, Paul Gobes, sent this reply:

Hi Larry, Yes, you can edit a self-describing file with Qedit, but you need to be careful:

To retain the SD label you need to either use the "labels" option on the Text:

   /text mydata,labels
or enable the "labels" option for all Text commands (I have this in my qeditmgr.pub.sys file):
   /set work labels on 
Deleting lines is no problem When adding lines, however, you need to make sure that you line up each field exactly in the correct columns; and watch out for non-byte fields, e.g. J1, P14, R6 ...; they are virtually impossible to add correctly in ASCII mode (of course they won't display properly in Qedit either).

Changing data is no problem for character fields, as long as you stay within the column boundaries, but you have the same problems with Binary fields as you do when adding new records.

As a tip, I'd suggest using Visual mode, to help line up fields with existing records. But if you have binary fields, then visual will see them as unprintable characters and not let you update those lines.

To workaround the problem with binary fields, you can set the margins to exclude the binary field,

   /set left 1
   /set right 40 {if the first binary starts in col 41}
Just remember to unset the margins before you Keep the file, otherwise you'll lose some columns.
   /set left
   /set right   {resets margins back to defaults}



HP Quotes Robelle

The February issue of the HP e3000 Advisor contains an article by Winston Prather called "Something to Shout About". In it he quotes Neil Armstrong of Robelle on his experiences testing Suprtool on the N class platforms.


Windows Tip: Zooming

Some applications have a feature to control the display magnification (zoom) size. That's the case of Internet Explorer (Text Size command of the View menu) or applications of the Microsoft Office suite (e.g Microsoft Word: Zoom command of the View menu, and Zoom box on the Standard toolbar). If you have an intelligent mouse with a wheel, you can quickly change the magnification value by holding the CTRL key while "spinning" the wheel.

For more Windows tips, visit the permanent location for this story.


Suprtool Tip: Update From a Table

dave lo
One common database maintenance task is a simple mass update: read a data file with two fields, where the first field is a key value, and the second field is a new value for a particular field in the record.

Suprtool does not currently have a command for this operation. However, there is another way to do it: transform the data file into a Suprtool script and then execute the script.

In this example, the DATAFILE is a self-describing file with two fields. The first field is a numeric field and is called KEYVALUE which is a product-id. The second field is a character field and is called NEWVALUE which is the new product description to update. You would create this file from some other data source, using the Output,Link Command in Suprtool to make it self-describing (i.e., it has an internal data dictionary defining the fields). Our DATABASE has a DATASET containing a PRODUCT-ID and a PRODUCT-DESC. For each PRODUCT-ID value in our DATAFILE (the KEYVALUEs), we want to replace the PRODUCT-DESC in the DATABASE with the corresponding NEWVALUE from the DATAFILE.

For each record in the DATAFILE, the CMDFILE script that is generated contains four Suprtool commands: Chain to retrieve a record by keyvalue, Update to update the selected record, Extract to replace the value of the second field with the new value, and Xeq to perform the task. Of course, you would modify the bold names in this example to match your file, dataset, and field names.

Note that extra quotation marks has to be extracted for character fields.

ext ';update ciupdate'
ext ';extract PRODUCT-DESC="', NEWVALUE, '"'
ext ';xeq'


Suprtool Case Study: Chartway

Nicky Gunther
Nicky Gunther, Robelle account rep and marketer, has done some research on Chartway Federal Credit Union, a user of the Summit application suite and Robelle's Suprtool.

Recently, there was a marketing initiative at Chartway to make debit card service available to more members. A mass mailing campaign was targeted to members whose profiles matched the following criteria: current ATM card user, direct deposit from employer, and average daily checking balance greater than $500.

Suprtool's powerful selection criteria allow you to select records from one dataset (e.g. members with ATM cards) to use in qualifying records in another dataset (e.g. members who receive direct deposit). With Suprtool, this process is very efficient since the serial read of a dataset with Suprtool is far faster than trying to link each record by key value, i.e., Suprtool reads each record only once.

The next step was to actually create the debit cards. This process is normally done interactively through two separate screens in the Spectrum application, one to collect the ACTH record (name of the card holder) and one to collect the ATEX record (limits on the card).

Instead, Suprtool was used to do the selections (i.e. which members to give cards) and build the input values for the ACTH and ATEX records. Then Suprtool formatted the data into the layout expected by the Summit program. Chartway then created 30,000 cards in three batches of 10,000 each, automating the card-making process by feeding the Suprtool-generated input files into the card application.

Read the full case study.


N and A Class in Europe

HP is busy introducing their new e3000 servers in Europe. For example, Dave Snow, world-wide hp e3000 Product Manager, from Cupertino, USA will have new servers at an HP Show in Stockholm, Sweden. Link courtesy Ole Nord.


Consultants: Beechglen Development

Beechglen is an e3000 focused firm that provides help desk support and consulting. Their web site features many useful e3000 Tips and their Mike Hornsby is the moderator of the The HP e3000 Answerline (useful).

Company Name: Beechglen Development, Inc.
Speciality:Help desk/web enabling.
Description:Help Desk services and web enabling consulting for HP3000 and HP9000 systems. Currently support over 200 systems worldwide.
Contact:Doug Werth, Director of Technical Support Services
Contact:Mike Hornsby, Chief Technical Officer
Location:Cincinnati, Ohio
Web site:beechglen.com/home.html
References:Hammacher Schlemmer


The AnnaKournikova virus

If you got a message from Robelle today with the subject "Here you have, ;o", then we apologize. This is a virus. Please delete the message without opening it or the attached file.

Our PCs got hit by the AnnaKournikova virus this morning. Luckily this virus does not damage files, though it does re-send itself to everybody in the address book, and clogs mail servers. We keep our virus scanners up to date, but one of the PCs did not have the proper anti-virus options enabled, so the virus got through. We are reviewing our procedures to see how we can prevent this in the future.


Extreme Programming

Since moving to the Caribbean, Bob Green, Robelle's President, has met a number of interesting computer people outside the HP world. Some of them are involved in an offshoot of object-oriented programming called Extreme Programming (XP), which is similar to the Step By Step method developed by Michel Kohon. Robelle's methods for creating software derive from Step By Step and may evolve closer to XP in the future.


Suprtool Training : PDF Workbooks

Hans Hendriks of Robelle Technical Support has converted the workbooks for our Suprtool training course into PDF format, making them much smaller, easier to download, and easier to print (with Adobe Acrobat).

Go ahead, download a bit of Suprtool training and make yourself more productive:


e3000 Basics: Learning MPE/iX

Allegro Consultants, Inc, creators of numerous technical tools for the e3000, have a nice page for newcomers, with links to learning resources that are either internal to the e3000 system or available on the Internet.


Solutions Symposium: Big Files

3kworld.com is carrying a report from the 3000 Newswire that the first release of MPE/iX for the new N and A class servers will expand the maximum file size from 4GB to 128GB. Originally, this was scheduled for a later release.


Solutions Symposium: QCTerm Excitement

Paul Gobes
Paul Gobes, manager of Robelle technical support, is attending the HP Solutions Symposium this week. Paul says that he finally understands why these new N and A class boxes deserve all the hoopla: the I/O system has been converted to the regular PCI standard and is at least 10 time faster than before. Paul also noticed a number of new young faces. The word has gotten around that this is the forum for newbies to learn lots about every aspect of running an HP e3000.

But Paul is really excited about something else:

I've been to a few presentations, the one that really blew my socks off, was Wirt Atmer's QCTerm lab. Up to now I always figured it was just another terminal emulator that happened to be free, one that supported some pretty background GIFs. But Wirt has some exciting plans in store; he sees it as a thin client that could be invoked by an HTTP URL, used just like a Real Audio player, that would provide a stateful connection to an interactive program on the host HP e3000. Download QCTerm from his web site.

Wirt's demo, even over a slow modem was clear, the graphics were sharp and the whole concept was exciting. Keep your eyes on Wirt and QCTerm.


Solutions Symposium: First Day Report

For those who could not attend, Chris Gauthier of 3kworld has written a summary of highlights from the first day of the HP Solutions Symposium


Consultants: 3K Associates

3K Associates is a long-time vendor to the HP e3000 market and their web site has a nice assortment of resources and links for the user. I especially like their hosting of Chris Edler's Early History of the 3000 (compare it with our much sparser history).

Company Name: 3K Associates
Speciality:Mail/Internet/Ecometry consulting.
Description:20 year consulting on the 3000. Creators of NetMail for e3000 and other Internet products.
Contact:Chris Bartram
Location:Springfield, Virginia
Web site:www.3k.com
Links:Cleaning up Email Addresses
Connect Your 3000 to the Internet


Unlimited Licenses on A and N-Class

Ron Seybold of the 3000 Newswire has written about the licensing on HP's new A-class and N-class servers. HP has pressed Reset on their pricing and now allows unlimited users on any new server. Read Ron's article on 3kworld, with additional news on unbundling of Allbase, phased introducton of MPE/iX 7.0, and Enyhdra.


Suprtool Tip: Add To Or Subtract From Dates

Dave Lo
One common business task is to generate a date value that is N-days before or after another date value in your database.

For example, FOLLOWUP-DATE might need to be a week after SHIPPED-DATE. With the new $Days function in Suprtool, you can easily generate a date that is N-days before or after any date. You only need to use two Suprtool tasks.

The first task generates the desired date, but it will be in Julianday format. For simplicity, we assume that the file only contains the date, in yyyymmdd X8 format.

     >input YOURFILE
     >def shipped-date,1,8
     >item shipped-date,date,yyyymmdd
     >def jdate,1,4,int
     >item jdate,date,julianday
     >ext shipped-date
     >ext jdate = $days(shipped-date) + 7
     >out tmpfile,link
The second task converts the Julian-format date to yyyymmdd format. Note that the while the date in the first task can be in any format, the date in this second task must end up in yyyymmdd format.
     >in tmpfile
     >def followup-date,1,4,int
     >item followup-date,date,yyyymmdd
     >ext shipped-date
     >ext followup-date = $stddate(jdate)
     >out result,link
Now you have a self-describing file with the following information
     >in result
     >list standard

     19990101 19981231
     19991231 19991230
     19990301 19990228

Tip courtesy dave.lo@robelle.com, Robelle technical support. For more Suprtool tips, visit the permanent location of this tip.


e3000 Web Sites: SearchHP

SearchHP is a search engine for information about HP computers, both MPE/iX and HP-UX. Their Editor's Pick of Best HP e3000 sites is wide-ranging and useful. For more e3000 links, visit the permanent location of this link.


Kudos for Robelle Web Site

Craig Solomon of the IT Consulting Consortium had some nice things to say about our web site yesterday:

I am the founder of the IT Consulting Consortium, I also write for the HP 3000 Newswire. Today I needed to go to the Robelle web in order to find some information on Neil's upcoming talk at the upcoming FLORUG show. This is the first time I have been to the Robelle site in a while.

My email is really for just one thing. I wanted to say "Good Job". I really like the new site, the layout and the ease of use. The friendly yet practical design is welcoming, informative and straight to the point. I spend a lot of time on web sites and I even spend time designing sites for special customers / friends, but you get a special vote of Good Job for a simple, clean, easy to load, friendly, easy to navigate and useful website!

Thanks for showing others how to do the job right!

Cordially, Craig S. (craig@craigs.com)

Craig worked with Robelle on Suprtool training when he was at Lund. Now he is spearheading an effort to create a consortium of e3000 consultants. So far they have had surprising opening success with the Consortium - they now represent twenty-three independent consultants, including Paul Edwards, one of our Suprtool trainers. This allows them to bring resources to bear when a client has large problem. Their current customer base includes Beaumont Hospital, ACS, Anthem Blue Cross & Blue Shield, School Specialties and Pinecrest Schools in California. Craig's web site, www.craigs.com has some interesting material, including a winhelp file for VeSoft's MPEX.


Windows Tip: Closing All Your Files

Gerard Kirwin of Mercantile Mutual Australia suggests the following tip:

If you run a Microsoft app that allows multiple windows to be open such as Word, Excel, and you want to close all your open windows within the app, hold the Shift key before clicking File on the menu bar. This will change the Close option to Close All - just click on it gerard.kirwan@mercantilemutual.com.au For more Windows tips, visit the permanent location of this tip.


e3000 Basics: The IMAGE FAQ

IMAGE is short for TurboIMAGE and IMAGE/SQL, the incredibly reliable database system provided with the HP e3000 system. If suddenly one day someone drops an e3000 on your desk and tells you to support it, one of the things you will need to learn is IMAGE. A good online start is The TurboIMAGE/XL FAQ hosted on Beechglen's web site. FAQ means Frequently Asked Questions and this document answers the questions that most commonly occur to beginning e3000 programmers and operations staff. Another good resource is Robelle's own Encyclopedia of 3000 Tips - start at the IMAGE page and follow the links. Also online at the HP web site are the TurboIMAGE/XL Database Management System Reference Manual and the IMAGE/SQL Administration Guide.


Consultants: Pinnacle

We continue to present you with consultants who are knowledgeable with our Suprtool product and apps that use it. The Consultants Corner.

Company Name: Pinnacle Business Solutions, Inc.
Description:Short term/long term on-site or off-site support. Implementations, Upgrades, Custom Programming, Custom Reporting/Extracts, Training, Accounting Support.
Contact:Lori Gansel
Location:Boynton Beach, FL
References: Bravanta.com: Jim Meyer, Michael Diaz
DeSantis Collection: Ryan Wheeler
Design Tuscano: Chuck Salerno
Design Within Reach: Maynard Jarvis
Diamond.com: Michele Brooks, Joe Partlow MAC Cosmetics: Gabe Mazzarolo
Marketing Concepts: Diane Buzzeo, Yvonne Bertorelli
Price Point: Avi Ivan
Professional Uniforms: Francisco Saenz
United Methodist Publishing House: Gail Orman
United States Mint: Sarah Jones


New N-Class and A-Class Servers

The HP e3000 A-class server is small, fast and inexpensive. It offers up to 65 percent more performance than previous entry-level e3000 servers and is available with 110 or 140 MHz, up to 2-way multi-processing, and supports up to 8 GB of memory. The N-class server is a fast, affordable, mid-range and high-end system with up to 35 percent more power than its highest performing predecessor -- the 12-way 997 server. It offers 220, 330, 440 and 550 MHz processors, up to 4-way multi-processing, and supports up to 16 GB of memory.

3kworld Cheat Sheet: very useful, with highlights of the new technology.

Robelle Tests the New Servers

By Neil Armstrong, Robelle Senior Programmer

In December 2000, I had the opportunity to test the new N-class servers on MPE/iX 7.0. These new N-class servers (and the smaller A-class servers) have the new PCI hardware, and much of the underlying IO layer has been re-written to support this new hardware.

I installed our test suites and ran all of our tests in a fraction of the time it takes to run our test suites in our lab at our home office in Surrey BC. This was done without changes to our software, a recompile, nothing.

In fact the NM version of our test suite typically takes 80 minutes on a 968 LX with no users. On the new N-Class server I was using the test suite took only 15 minutes.

This is a huge time savings.

I did some custom tests extracting 5Gb of data, sorting and outputting the data. While watching the process with Glance I saw IO rates exceeding 400 IO's per second. Previous to this testing, the highest rates that I saw on a customer's 997-4 way was approximately 95 IO's per second. The N-class testing was done with the files "fflushed" from memory to ensure that we stressed the IO subsystem as much as possible.

One of the most impressive tests was the reading and output of a 5Gb dataset, with the comparison a 10 byte key value using Suprtool's Table feature, with all 5Gb of data selected. It was done in 6 minutes 38 seconds. With the faster memory and processors of late the new PCI IO brings IO rates more in line or balanced with the system as a whole.

These were some of the fastest HP e3000 servers I have ever seen, and this new technology extends the performance curve beyond anything I had ever imagined for the HP e3000.



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